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Michael H wrote 5 months ago We need solutions, Money and supplies are getting tight for every one so here is a suggestion. We have one of those food sealers from costco where it sucks the air out. I went and bought a fifty pound sack of grain yesterday for $10.65 cents. I have a couple of five gallon pails I bought a while ago for I think around 7 dollars. I am packing grain in about 2 pounds and vacum sealing it, with a small moisture remover pack that I got from our mormon friend neighbors, which you can buy cheap online. When I have enough packed to fill a 5 gallon bucket I will seal it with some dry ice on top to take out the oxygen, and then duct tape the lid. You could do this with dry beans, peas and rice which are cheap and any other grains in fifty pound bags they sell for livestock feed. So I should have 50 pounds of food for under 20.00 which can be sprouted or ground for bread, or fed to livestock. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA  prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers  |
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Lua Sage Fisher wrote 5 months ago Dehydrate fruits and veggies instead of canning. Canning requires access to jars, seals, and lids. If you dehydrate, then powder and mix veggies together you could make a nice soup stock in a very small storage space - lots of nutrients, fairly easy to transport. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago we do a lot of drying and then vacuum seal, We don't can, but our neighbor friend puts up over 1500 jars a year of stuff, feeds her big family for nothing practically, in our area you can pick all the blackberries, apples, pears, peaches,mushrooms and other stuff wild along the roads or in your yard. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Becky P wrote 5 months ago One thing, make sure your coop is selling the grains that are not treated. The coops in my region are cross based and sell farm grain and "food" grade grain. The farm grain can be treated with everything from fertilizers to roundup!! ______________________ |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago good point becky, Our co op is mostly certified local grown co op members, from the Willamette valley area of oregon. Small community supported agriculture, a lot of them are horse operated farms. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Ant Bee wrote 5 months ago I love talking about food. I like to put dry beans, corn, rice, peas, herbs, in 4l glass jars I get for free from my friends restaurants business. I don’t like canning, but do freeze( but if no hydro want work) and Dehydrate just about every thing, onions, garlic, herbs, tomatoes. just make sure you cut them the right size, to small and they disappear to big and it take forever. I also just hang food, I put up nails all around the kitchen away from the stove and hang my braided onions, garlic in mesh bags, hot peppers strung on strings. Even 3 or 4 corn cobs with the raps peels back tied together hug up. |
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Steve . wrote 5 months ago, Modified 5 months ago Here's what i have done. I initially bought some food grade buckets, but realized i could of got along fine with just going to a local restaurant and asking for their plastic buckets. Most places throw them out anyway. Like pickle buckets etc. I then ordered "mylar" bags, they come in all different sizes. I got the 5 gal. size for my long term wheat and rice storage. ordered oxygen obsorbers (pretty inexpensive) and then used my wifes clothes iron to heat seal the bags. The buckets stack nicely out of the way. I recommend doing large scale storage in the 5 gal. bags, but then getting many smaller bags such as quart and 1 gal. size. You do spend a little more, but do we really want to cut corners with this. Plus, as we've all discussed in other topics, i think have little packets of rice or wheat will be a good "currency" to have in your pocket for numerous reasons. It is believed that packing dry food this way it will be good for up to 30 years. I'll leave a couple sites that i find pretty useful. https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emergency_supplies/mylar_food_storage_bags.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7_cTn6YpE Also, i know the title "cheap ways to store food" was meant to help people that have limited resources, but i can promise you, when it comes to food storage, this is definetely something you don't want to do cheaply. Everything we're working for here becomes void if you starve to death. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago I think another good inexpensive product would be soup starters or even canned soups of good quality. You could use them as a soup base and throw in what ever could be scrounged .or left overs. soup is a good way to feed a lot of people and can be watered down to stretch and made with anything Laura buys these organic rice noodle soups with no msg, there sorta like a top ramen, there like 50 cents a pack and make a quick lunch or snack. They are light and easy to store or carry. I personally like the msg laced top ramen for 10 or 20 cents a pack, but its not allowed, but if it was a matter of eating or not , I think a person could put up a years supply for under a 100.00 dollars, throw in some ground rabbit, squirrel, rat, and you got a poor mans survive 2012 ration. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago The good old mac and cheese in a box. cheap and will store a long time, can be mixed with anything 3 for a buck years supply around a 100 dollars. These items might make good barter or trade ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago Ok they are called thai kitchen from simply asia .com there are 12 per box, the box is about 3 inches wide 6 inches tall by 16 inches long, so a person could store 30 boxes in a small area. they have 170 calories per bag, and 34 grams of carbs, not so great as nutrition goes but a person could add some dried veggies with it to make it stretch and work. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago got a flyer yesterday from emergency essentials hashbrowns 6 dollars a 10 pound can oats rolled 5 dollars a 10 pound can 30 years storage life each 10 pound can makes 24 one cup servings so 15 cans each for a years supply just under 100 dollars for each http://beprepared.com/ sending out an order today ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago so 250 pounds of wheat 100 dollars 100 pounds of rice and 100 pounds of beans each 100 dollars mac and cheese 100 dollars soup or ramens year supply 100 dollars potatoes 100 dollars oats for cereal 100 dollars. thats 700 dollars another 300 for dried fruits and veggies a poor mans survival pack to fall back on for 100 dollars a month If you start today you would make it ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Web Master wrote 5 months ago excellent advice and cost effective |
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Steve . wrote 5 months ago Michael, Love what your doing. Specific details, keep up the good research. many people don't think they can do it cause it sounds so overwhelming and expensive. Your showing it can be done, Keep it up! |
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Daniel 72 wrote 5 months ago I worked out a 3 year supply per person for - Food - white and red meat, veggies, pastas, sauce, flour, sugar, coffee, tea, soups, beans, dry and fresh frozen products. etc... Liquids - milk, water Medicine - All types All of a budget between 2000-3000 euro (3 years), this is for very nice portions, can stretch to 4 years easily. I plan to have a cool room running on solar power and generators to keep frozen items in. best way to save on energy, cool room on a timer, one large space, for plenty of products. I use to design and make cool rooms and they can vary from 1m x 2m x 2.4m (h) (1500 euros) and get larger from there, the smaller the cool room, the smaller the motor. It runs on gas, which is re-filled and serviced every year, not much gas needed to keep these going, plenty of designs out there, look at refrigeration manufacturers. My cool room will be about 2m x 3.5m x 2.4m (3000 euros), I am running a business with this, so its fairly large. As Michael said, bulk buying is the best option |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago Thanks web master and steve, food storage does seem to be an obstacle in terms of money. I am just thinking of easy cheap ways to help us all from starving or to be able to help others. Mostly I think food storage should be a fall back plan when you haven't eaten in a day or so. If a crop fails I am seriously thinking even 2 years worth of stuff might not be enough Lets face it Even I would not turn out a desperate person, let alone a family with kids, ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago What about canned fruit in syrup, how long will it store in a can. fruit cocktail is fairly inexpensive, and would go a long way on oatmeal in cakes and bread. Its under a dollar a can ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Jamie Pierce wrote 5 months ago Tinned Tuna in oil stores a good while, and I think most tinned food can last up to 5 years, things like corned beef has a good shelf life, you can live pretty well off rolled oats, even though it would drive you nuts in the end. We store dried beans, lentils, all the things to make a soup or a stew. We have a good amount of pasta and rice in storage, but we are always adding to our stores. Good rotation is key with storage, making sure that you stores don't spoil. Last year we invested in some heavy duty water storage containers for drinking water, we have the ability to store about 300 liters of water, we may well look at increasing that capacity, but like everything, it always comes down to money. |
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Daniel 72 wrote 5 months ago I like your attitude Michael, we definitely need plenty of all types of supplies, I kind of believe at least 5 years, thats before communities sort out new systems. It all depends on the outcome, could be only 6 months is needed if we are lucky. |
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Jamie Pierce wrote 5 months ago In times gone by folks would always have a years amount of food in store, because 'back in them old days' folks knew that if their crops failed, they would be right up sh*t creek without a paddle. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago Here is a thought Notice how obesity is taken over the world I wonder if sub consciously mother nature is preparing the human race for a major famine. When I go to the city I see thousands of people who probably haven't seen there feet in years and almost every kid is fatter then ****. Either that or there is going to be reptile ufo ship stopping by to cull the herd and stock there pantry with fat human cattle. We are worried about stocking up for 2 to 5 years and there are people who could miss that many years of meals and still be fat. p.s I shouldn't talk I got at least a 30 to sixty day reserve myself ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Jamie Pierce wrote 5 months ago That's interesting Michael H, I read something similar. There was an article last year that proposed that, when mankind heads into difficult circumstances such as a famine, the body starts to increase it's fat reserves at a sort of safety measure. Kind of like certain animals before winter. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago so are we looking forward to a 5 year winter ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Lua Sage Fisher wrote 5 months ago I would think this had some merit except for the fact that the food industry is responsible, and did it intentionally. MSG is addictive, causes obesity and is in nearly everything refined. High Fructose Corn Syrup is addictive, poisonous, in most things that have been sweetened at all, and a major cause of obesity. Aspartame is poisonous, addictive, and causes obesity. In areas of the world where they don't eat refined foods, they aren't obese. |
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Lua Sage Fisher wrote 5 months ago I finally managed to stop gaining weight when I stopped eating any form of refined food whatsoever, but I haven't managed to start losing yet. |
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Jamie Pierce wrote 5 months ago Very good points, although diet is a choice, there is enough information out there about all this, but still people are making a self destructive choice. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago 2012 is the upcoming diet plan of the ages, we all might have to use are spare tires and love handles to eke out a few more days. I am going to write a new book Diet Hell no I am training for 2012 ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago I think one of the best cheap comfort foods is popcorn, buy it in bulk, I think a person could pacify kids and adults during tough times or being bunkered down ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Mike Shannon wrote 5 months ago Awesome site for food storage Steve. Good prices on Mylar bags which i was looking for..the grinder is sweet!!!! I think the more we have that is manual the better..back to basics!!! |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emergency_supplies/mylar_food_storage_bags.htm i will repost the link very good price on the oxygen absorbers, also noticed the bucket come with rubber in the lids for a better seal. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Jay A wrote 5 months ago, Modified 5 months ago This reminds me... I think i discovered the best way to preserve fruit for a very very very long time. I was watching "Life After People" on the History Channel and they kept going back to check on the fruitcake saying "nothing had changed yet" and also referenced a fruitcake that is 130 years old and had a taste test a year or so back. It was determined to be still edible. Thinking about cranking out fruitcakes lol. ______________________ You can have your money... and all the gold you've saved.Ain't room for one thing...... in every bodies grave. CLUTCH |
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Jamie Pierce wrote 5 months ago I never thought of fruitcake, personally i really hate the stuff. Actually if you look at fruitcake it's kinda got that 'ageless' look about it, like it's part of the family. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago fruitcakes and twinkies watched that zombieland movie, woody was always looking for a twinkie to eat. You could put an add in the paper after the holidays WILL TAKE YOUR FRUITCAKE OFF YOUR HANDS might get a lifetime supply before 2012 ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Ant Bee wrote 5 months ago Very smart ideas. ,I like the rat soup Michael, |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago we might all like rat soup with cockroach crunchies AS THOSE ARE 2 SPECIES THAT WILL THRIVE ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Ant Bee wrote 5 months ago, Modified 5 months ago A good idea would be get the books for eating the local wild plants. and start familiarising your self with the plant life out your back yards, or city parks. there is many so called weeds that are very good to eat, and full of vitamins Then you can add your rat, soup mix with your picked lawn greens with a side dish of cockroaches. |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago yum yum but actually there are people that only eat wild growing stuff I would actually need a teacher to show me what to eat, so I wouldn't poison myself I once ate these mushrooms in the early 80's and haven't been right since ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago http://readynutrition.com/resources/essential-prepping-calculators_13022010/ go to this link it has a calculation for how much everybody will needseeds per acrefood per person or groupI think its from the mormons, beyond excellent______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Becky P wrote 5 months ago The fruits from emergency essentials are really good. I know I want to do my own but the strawberries and apples we purchased from them are really good!! Light weight also!! One thing about canned foods and I can't seem to find more information on them are the BPA's in them. Green Giant blue Lake Green beans are the worst! They contain a lot!! I was trying to find a web site that listed all the foods known to have BPA in the packaging but could only find one and it wanted you to purchase the information,,,,,,,,really?!?!?! The article that I read about it was in the Detroit Free Press. Tuna fish was another one listed as being toxic. Don't remember which brand though! There were also many frozen veggies that the plastic bags were loaded. The Mac and Cheese was on sale at Meijer's the other day, .49 cents a box. ______________________ |
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Ant Bee wrote 5 months ago Michael H wrote...
yum yumbut actually there are people that only eat wild growing stuff I would actually need a teacher to show me what to eat, so I wouldn't poison myself I once ate these mushrooms in the early 80's and haven't been right since I new we had something in comin lol Most of the weeds in my garden we can eat, lamb corters, dandlion, chick weed, young mike weed, cat tails. its pretty easys just to know a 1/2 does or so plants you can bend over and eat. you know what they say, one man weed is an other man smoke. |
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Hollie Scott wrote 5 months ago |
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Hollie Scott wrote 5 months ago |
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Hollie Scott wrote 5 months ago |
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Michael H wrote 5 months ago thanks for adding the vid's Hollie ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Ant Bee wrote 4 months ago A another good way to have food around is plant eatable plant around your house, like they did in war times, the dutch dug up there tulips to eat. there are hundred of plant you can grow for there looks around your house and if need be you can safely eat. wild or domestic plants. http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/food/edibleplants/index.html http://ezinearticles.com/?Edible-Flowers-and-Herbs-For-the-Kitchen-Garden&id=3996572 |
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Michael H wrote 3 months ago ok I found this food survival site and I think this is a good deal theeconomiccollapseblog.com/emergency-food you can get 275 meals for about 100.00 20 year storage life. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 3 months ago www.survivalreportblog.com/Food_storage.html I came across this blog it tells how to store a years supply of food for under 80 cents a day. This is well worth the read. I use to think 1 year was enough but now I am leaning towards a 3 year supply How many here could honestly say they can grow and store enough food for a year in these good times, let alone a pole shift. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 2 months ago www.endtimesreport.com/food.html This site talks on how to do a food storage for 300 dollars. ONE thing I found interesting was taking frozen food and drying it. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Michael H wrote 2 months ago 167: Bag It! Packaging Bulk Foods with NitrogenApril 27th, 2010
Loraine, organizer of The Neighborhood Readiness Project, has arranged with several locally-owned grocery stores to sell 25 pound bags of grains, beans and other bulk foods at just above cost. Loraine’s vision is our having food caches in every neighborhood in the county, so that, if the trucks stop rolling in an emergency, we’ll have food for ourselves AND to share with our neighbors. (www.NeighborRP.org). Listen to audio. Read Janaia’s journal “Storing Bulk Food - for Neighborhood Security” about taping this show. ______________________ "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. " - Tyler DurdenA prayer for the world Please god protect the world from your followers |
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Nevada County locals Jim Wray and Loraine Webb demonstrate the how and why of packaging bulk foods with nitrogen. They’re using equipment available for community members to use at minimal cost. Jim demonstrates packaging: make plastic bags using a heat sealer, fill with foodstuffs, suck out the oxygen with a small vacuum, then replace the air with nitrogen and seal.Moderators:
julezedward, ivanstein
